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Who Should Represent USA Basketball: All-Stars Or NBA Team Like Detroit Pistons?



August 16 07

Readers: Below is a feature I wrote after the Americans lost to Greece in last year’s FIBA World Championships. I made the argument that USA Basketball should consider replacing the Dream Team concept with an NBA team.

Fan reaction was mixed. It’s a different idea; one that takes a minute to wrap your head around. With the Olympic qualifier coming up I thought it was worth re-examining. I made some updates to the piece.

Give me your thoughts in the comment box below on the pros and cons of USA Basketball sending an NBA team to international competitions. As always, it never matters if you agree or disagree with the post. Just have fun making your point!

Thanks for reading.

Oly.

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 September 08, 2006

Chemistry is the difference between winning and losing in team sports-or for USA Basketball, the difference between a gold and bronze medal at the 2006 FIBA World Championship.

Other teams had chemistry, the Americans did not.

Exhibit A: the Greeks showed incredible chemistry, executing a perfect pick-and-roll offense in their semi-final win over the Americans.

Exhibit B: the Spaniards displayed even greater chemistry, overcoming the loss of injured-superstar Pau Gasol to win the World Championship.

The Greeks and Spaniards did not develop their chemistry by having players participate in six week tryouts or commit to summertime training sessions like USA Basketball.

They did it by having their best players train together for years-sometimes decades.

And now USA Basketball has a problem. On the one hand, to field a winning team, American-NBA stars would have to make a real, long-term commitment to the national program. On the other hand, few American-NBA stars will actually make this kind of multi-year commitment.

But another option exists-one that will shock the NBA ‘playa’ world of Cadillac Escalades and thirty inch spinners.

Send the Detroit Pistons to the 2007 Olympic qualifier in Las Vegas. That’s right, the Dream Teams are finished and over; in its place the Detroit Pistons, who will represent USA Basketball at international competitions.

It makes perfect sense-counter the chemistry and skill of global basketball with the chemistry and skill of an NBA team like Detroit.

Picture this, first half of the World Championship semi-final. Greece scores a basket on a simple pick-and-roll play. The Pistons, yes, the Pistons call a timeout and adjust.

And that’s it. Game over.

Greece tries to run the same pick-and-roll play, but has little success. Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton get over the hi-screen, while Tayshaun Prince, Jason Maxiell, and Nazr Mohammed disrupt passing lanes with their length. And Rasheed Wallace-he’s everywhere.

Perhaps, that’s too simple. After all, Detroit has stumbled in the playoffs and Greece could make adjustments on offense. 

But the basketball world thinks it’s worth considering. Randy Nohr, an assistant coach with the University of British Columbia Thunderbirds and a former player with Canada’s national team, thinks it’s an interesting idea.

“They might do better. I’m not one hundred percent sure,” Nohr said. “But they probably would do better just because they (Detroit) already have all their plays. They know how to play with each other. But it’s hard to say”

What isn’t hard to say-Detroit’s current squad could defend any European national team.

There’s another point worth considering. USA Basketball spends tournaments figuring out player roles. For example, nobody thought LeBron James should start at the 1-spot until the bronze medal game against Argentina .

After shifting positions, James had his best game of the World Championship -filling the box-sheet with 22 points, 9 rebounds, and 7 assists-and getting extended minutes next to Carmelo Anthony and Dwyane Wade.

James, at lead-guard for the entire tournament, changes the World Championship. The Americans probably defeat Greece and hold their own against Spain in the final.

Not to worry. Detroit’s coaching staff won’t waste an entire tournament figuring out how the parts fit. They know Billups gets the rock late in games; Hamilton and Wallace spread the defense with their outside stroke. And Antonio McDyess provides scoring off the bench.

There are legitimate concerns with sending an NBA team. Reggie Theus, a former NBA star and and now the coach of the Sacramento Kings, pointed out the biggest problem.

“I think that it would hurt them (Detroit) in the overall scheme of things for the season,” Theus said. “Because you have the chemistry of a team that plays year round-that would be better for in that sense. But I think it would hurt them (Detroit) in the other picture-their everyday (NBA) jobs.”

Fair enough. Right now, NBA players and franchises are not obligated to participate in international competitions. The feeling is an NBA team, like Detroit, would get tired playing in the Olympics or World Championship. Fatigue hurts their chances of celebrating an NBA Title in June.

Well, too bad. The world’s best soccer teams pull double-duty, playing in their own domestic league and taking part in international club tournaments. Most players on these teams represent their country at the World Cup and European Championship.

One NBA team can’t do the same?

Commissioner David Stern could compensate the Piston players and organization for representing USA Basketball. How would Detroit’s veteran players feel about ten extra home games during the regular season? How about an extra first round draft pick or additional money to spend on free agents?

Of course, the stakeholders, American-NBA players, NBA owners, and USA Basketball, would have to iron out the details of compensation.

There’s also concern about player injuries. Piston players are at risk taking part in summertime tournaments. Again, this hinders Detroit’s chance at a June playoff run.

Again, too bad. Injuries can happen anywhere. Players get hurt running off-season pick-up games and balling during NBA sanctioned summer leagues in Vegas, Orlando, and Denver.

Why are the Olympics and World Championship a greater risk than NBA summer leagues?

The main point is that USA Basketball has to think outside the box. The Detroit Pistons should be considered for the 2007 qualifying tournament and the Beijing Olympics because an all star team might not attain the desired results.

What do you think of last year’s feature? Should USA Basketball send an NBA team instead of All-Stars? Get at us in the comment box below with your thoughts.

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80 Comments: Who Should Represent USA Basketball: All-Stars Or NBA Team Like (...)

Posted by
Richie
on 08.21.2007
I agree that the world champion team is typically the best choice, however a lot of the Spurs better players are foriegn: Duncan, Ginobli, and Parker. Sending the Spurs without them would be suicide. The Cavs starting center isn’t American. The Pistons have undenyably been the most overall successful team and have the most team chemistry without any foriegn players (now that Delfino is gone). .
Posted by
#1 detroit fan
on 08.21.2007
i think the pistons would be awsome for this. they are in my mind the best TEAM in the nba. the only team that i think would do a little better just because the fast pace game of international basketball is the suns. but the pistons are the safe way to go because even if the game is fast (like how the suns play), the pistons are able to slow it down with their defence. .
Posted by
pate
on 08.20.2007
the idea sounds good but if you want to send a team over there to play, i would send the world champs, The Spurs, they are the best team in basketball until proven differently.! .
Posted by
Mic T
on 08.20.2007
Hey Blah! Carlos Delfino is not on the Pistons anymore, plus he sucks so who cares if they lose him for the tournament? Get the Pistons from 2004 and we have the best possible team. With Ben Wallace replacing CWebb and Larry Brown replacing Flip Saunders , who is the most overrated coach in the NBA, you have one of the best NBA teams ever assembled. Dont forget about Corliss Williamson from that team. He was a huge part of that bench. Send an NBA team, I have been saying this for years, but think about it. In our society money is everything and the NBA is where these players make there money. How else are they going to buy there fur coats and diamond earrings? Not getting injured in international play. And as for Lebron James and Dwayne Wade, they can’t drive to the basket without traveling and unlike the NBA, international officials call traveling. .
Posted by

on 08.20.2007
Blah, check your rosters again. Delfino does’ play for the Pistons anymore. He went to Toronto a couple of months ago. Alot of people here seem offended that the Piston’s were suggested because they have a bias against them but the fact remains Detroit plays a team oriented style of basketball. As for them not being able to compete on the international level....please! Remember, it’s still the rest of the world trying to get into the NBA and not the other way around. Sure there are alot of great international players but where are their superstars? This isn’t David Beckham and soccer....... .
Posted by
Toe
on 08.20.2007
Some posted that non-Americans play for free. Right. National team members from other countires get paid. They get nice houses. Nice perks. Oh I agree that some American pro players won’t endanger their pro earnings for fear of injury, etc. but don’t paint a picture of Americans being unwilling to play for their country when you have those American softball and women’s soccer players playing and swimmers and such.Many of those foreign soccer, basketball, and other sports stars can be pretty playboys who make a lot of money themselves and get perks to play for the country. .
Posted by
Mike
on 08.20.2007
I disagree somewhat with the notion that we fall in love so much with highlights that we don’t have fundamentals. One poster said we can’t shoot from the outside. The problem is that we never seem to be able to put the right players out there.Ray Allen can shoot the ball from the outside. Lights out. But where is he? Where has Shaquille O’Neal been. Kobe? Over the past several years, we have sent the wrong set of players overseas, or we have failed to include the right players for whatever reason (injuries, personal reasons, etc.). If we truly sent the right players over there with some time to play together, the outcomes could be different.Our last team was YOUNG. As good as Carmelo, Wade, LeBron, Bosh, and others were last time around, they were young, immature, and not ready to step up. Too much 1-on-1 basketball. Everyone loves Wade but his game is all about forcing the ball 1-on-1. How about some passing? .
Posted by

on 08.20.2007
Interesting article. The chemistry factor is definitely a major plus. Think 1980 US Hockey beating USSR, who beat a team of NHL ALL-STARS. The man Herb Brooks himself said All-Star teams fail in that they rely on individual talent (sounds like the NBA much?). The same thing is happening in American baseball. We are in love with the highlight reel slam dunk (or home run) and have gotten so far removed from the fundamentals of the game that international teams can handle us. Those international shooters can just spot up and drain buckets, but American players can’t shoot unless their hand is clutching the rim. Sad state of affairs. These guys need some real coaching. Grade school summer camp style. .
Posted by

on 08.20.2007
The irony of it all is that noone stops to think why you guys would send the Pistons instead of one of the three elite teams. That’s not to say that you couldn’t build a team right now that can compete at the olympics. But you’d have to be able to pick from all NBA pros, not just the ones willing to get off their butts during summer. .
Posted by

on 08.20.2007
If the olympics are every 4 years, take the past 4 championship teams and put them in a tournament. The winner of the 4-team tourney should go on to they olympics. In terms of qualifying for the olympics, just send the current champions. .
Posted by

on 08.20.2007
FOR THE HORDE .
Posted by

on 08.20.2007
I agree with the concept of sending an NBA team as team USA. They use to do that in hockey when the winning Stanley Cup team would take on an all-star team as the original all-star game. However, the only problem is this creates an unfair situation for that team that is sent. The NBA team will have played more games and be subjected to possible injuries which could hurt their chances during the regular season. Although the qualifying tournament would be used in-lieu of pre-season. But pre-season is not like playing the FIBA tournament. And if the team that is sent has international players on them they will be minus that player(s). .
Posted by

on 08.20.2007
Not a bad idea, but it would never happen because you couldn’t get Rasheed or Hamilton to go. Plus if the dream team came together why can’t players now come together? The problem is that they are selfish, they don’t want to just go out and win, they have to look good and get all the points. The dream team had less depth than what the nba has now. But they passed the ball and found the open player and didn’t care who scored the most points, they just won. Now, you can’t get Kobe to pa-------the ball to anyone, heck he probably wouldn’t pa-------it to Micheal Jordan. The American team has no dominate center, they need to take Shaq and Tim Duncan and Robert Horry. Infact put this lineup on the floor: Chauncey Billups at point, Dwyane Wade at guard, Robert Horry at small forward, Tim Duncan at power forward, and Shaq at center. The backups would be: Jason Kidd at point, Vince Carter at guard, Bruce Bowen at small forward, Ben Wallace at power forward, Dwight Howard at center, Marcus Camby at power forward, and Alonzo Mourning at center. .
Posted by
Eden_Mason
on 08.20.2007
There’s no question the Pistons would be a force in any league. I do agree with "Camb0dia" though that one or two changes could be made. The pistons have never been strong at the 5 spot offensively. Add another quality big man to help out CWebb and McDyess (let’s face it, their getting old) and alos add another guard of team-effort mentality. We don’t need a Kobe or a Lebron on the Pistons, but there was talk of JKidd going to the pistons during all the rumored trade-talks a while back . . . . I always thought he’d meld well with the unselfishness of the Pistons. .
Posted by
Camb0dia
on 08.20.2007
Pistons plus Duncan isntead of Nazr and a backup pg of quality and a miller-esque shooter on the bench .
Posted by

on 08.20.2007
It literally does not matter what the Americans do with this situation. They’ll probably get beaten anyway. The Pistons? Oh, please, any of the top tier international teams would whup their tired old asses. The NCAA champion wouldn’t even have a prayer against wily veteran teams such as Spain and Argentina. Just face it, guys: it’s gonna be an uphill battle from now on end, and there will be no permanent restoration of dominance. .
Posted by
RC
on 08.20.2007
This makes a ton of sense; the Pistons play basketball the way it is supposed to be played......the whole team is involved, not a one-man scoring show. They can hurt you from any angle and they will close you down defensively. Why don’t we send a team like that to represent the country that invented the game! .
Posted by

on 08.19.2007
isnt it funny how americans are touted as patriotic but when it comes to playing for your country, everybody runs away crying boo hoo I might get injuries and waa waa i wanna get paid.in non patriotic countries, people play for free and proud of it too. .
Posted by

on 08.19.2007
How about the first step being that they scrimmage with an NBA team?that way they can expose weakness in the dream teams lack of cohesion and hopefully work something out in practice instead of on the court. .
Posted by
Steve
on 08.19.2007
I agree with the responses above regarding Rasheed Wallace. I’m afraid he would bring back images of "the ugly American". I like the idea of filling the roster with "character guys". A better way to make the playing field more level for USA Basketball is to bring NBA rules more in line with FIBA rules. It’s unfair to expectUSA players to play NBA rules for the majority of their playing time and then practice for a few weeks with FIBA rules and FIBA balls and be expected to compete fairly. The majority of international players play FIBA rules yearround and when they enter international competition, there is no need for adjustment. And if you don’t think the difference in basketball’s is significant, watch the NBA player’s fumble away with more frequency the slightly larger and differently textured FIBA basketball, than they do the NBA basketball. And have you ever wondered why great NBA outside shooters suddenly begin to shoot bricks in FIBA competition? It’s not being used to the ball, baby! .
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