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Who made your All Star reserves for the 08-09 season? Vol. Stat Stuffers on bad teams or small markets. By John Nguyen
01.8.2009 - Updated on 01.8.2009
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We didn’t learn much, did we? I’m looking at the 4th all star voting returns and NBA fans are still stupid. How are Nick Collison and Ben Wallace getting votes? I trashed Luke Ridnour before, and rightfully so, he sucks. If you want proof, look at his game logs. There’s no need for me to go in any further unless he wants to be grouped with Dan Dickau. The thing that pisses me off is that Nick Collison is actually listed with votes. Nowhere do I see his superior teammate Kevin Durant.
So how is Collison getting votes? This is how people are thinking before voting, “I’m from Kansas and he’s from Kansas, too. Voting for him. He likes the rock chalk? I like it, too. Voting for him. He’s white like me? I’ll vote.”
It’s typical and people will slam on Yi Jianlian, too. China is voting like this, “Oh he’s from China. I’ll vote. He’s Chinese? I’ll vote.” He’s not alone. China is voting for T-Mac as well because he associates himself with Yao, “Tracy McGrady can still play? I’ll vote for him. He helps Yao? Let’s vote.”
It’s the same mentality for both Americans and International fans. Most are guilty of this.
Except for me because I’m the super alpha male, remember?
This probably does not mean anything in the end because they’re getting votes; that’s what it is. The numerous arguments I’ve heard over the years for players getting snubbed or barely any recognition are as follows:
- The player is just a good stat stuffer on a bad team.
- No player should be an All Star unless his team above .500.
- He’s in a small market.
Kevin Durant: Step off with the stat stuffer argument. Isn’t that what he’s supposed to do? It’s about numbers, too. Becoming an All Star is an individual recognition thing. This is not a team-based performance award. Yeah, wipe that shit-eating grin off your face with that argument because you look dumb. I’ve heard many so-called sports “experts” use this on numerous NBA shows. The guys using this look more stupid than not. This is not going to stick. It’s not player’s fault that the team around him sucks. That’s why Kevin Durant should make the All Star reserves this year. Thing is does the Oklahoma Thunder deserve an All Star for how they did Seattle dirty? And for that, Nick Collison should make the All Star game before KD to further make him mad. Not only can this be an embarrassing blemish for the Thunder, but this might make KD to demand a trade. Come to the Bulls, Kevin.
Danny Granger: The Indiana Pacers are not above 500. So? He just won the damn game for Indiana against Phoenix putting up monster numbers. Through 32 games thus far he’s averaging nearly 26 points, 5 boards, 3.5 assists, 1 steal, and 1.4 blocks. I fully expect him to be an All Star this season. His team’s performance should not matter. Why should it matter? This is an absurd qualification if it ever came to fruition. If Skip Bayless, Jay Mariotti, or any ESPN analyst uses this, they should be tortured by watching the cliché movie “College” or “Semi-Pro.” That’s more than enough torture.
Deron Williams: He plays in Utah. That’s all I need to say. He’s also the biggest snub of them all. Last season, he was robbed of a spot by Brandon Roy. This year, he might not make it again. He is the clear cut 2nd best point guard in the NBA who hasn’t been an All Star yet. This could be a Shakespearean tragedy. Playing in Utah hurt his rep. I completely blame this on the entire state of Utah for not stuffing the ballot for him. If Luke Ridnour can get that many votes out of Milwaukee, why can’t D-Wills get all the votes from Utah? I don’t see him mentioned in many NBA circles. I also blame ESPN for not featuring Deron a lot. The ankle injury did hurt somewhat, but he’s back to his full form. Last time I checked, the Jazz is playing above .500 ball. It’s too bad. They mention Lebron, Kevin Garnett, and Kobe all the fuckin’ time, but never these guys. Face it; ESPN has a lot of power to push the popularity of certain players who are “media sexy.” Where’s the support for this guy, Utah? You don’t have confidence in him?
Perhaps all three should play with Yao Ming or Yi Jianlian.
My All Star reserves:
EAST
WEST
What’s yours?
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Posted by
jjcavsfan23
on 01.29.2009 | mo williams should have made the reserves for the east . | Posted by
john
on 01.22.2009 | this is crazy deron williams not making the all-star team again dis dude is 2nd in assists and 2 best point guard overall the jazz go to the playoffs every year and when they get boozer back they will be even better but t’mac makes the team the jazz knocked them out the 1 round the past 2 years this is bull s---give deron and utah its credit . | Posted by
eMILLER
on 01.16.2009 | Greg Oden...all the way! . | Posted by
on 01.14.2009 | The NBA needs the change fan voting for the all-star game. Unfortunately, McGrady is leading Chris Paul in voting. Chris Paul is a distant third in all-star voting behind Tracy McGrady. Paul is averaging 20.8 pts per game, 11.5 assist, 5.2 rebounds, leads the league in double doubles and triple doubles, best assist to turnover ratio, and only guard to be in top 10 in field goal percentage. McGrady’s numbers are not even close. . | Posted by
Terrible
on 01.13.2009 | terrible article and terrible responses John. . | Posted by
will
on 01.12.2009 | come on John, how are you going to put pau gasol over amare stoudemire . | Posted by
Jeretron
on 01.12.2009 | Bosh shouldn`t be a reserve HE SHOULD START...Kevin Garnet isnt an allstar starter just because this may be his last year.Win another championship instead . | Posted by
omar
on 01.10.2009 | First of all you on reserves you can only have 2 guards 2 forwards 1 center and then 2 players at any position, so i don’t get why you have 5 guards and not one center. Ben Gordon and Derrick Rose defiantly don’t deserve to be all stars cause there team stinks and plus your telling me lebrons rookie year he wasn’t voted in and had better numbers then rose. CAVS are tied for best record in the NBA with Lakers and your telling me they don’t deserve at least 2 all stars EAST RESERVES PG-D.HARRIS SG-J.JOHNSON SF-D.GRANGER PF-C.BOSH C- Z, Horford, Rasheed V.CARTER P.PIERCE harris is playing at an all star level avg 23.2 ppg and 5.6 apg and keeping NJN in the playoff race along with VC thats why both deserve an all star spot, joe johnson is playing at a solid level and also has the hawks in top 5 in the EAST and challenging Boston,cavs, orl and det. Granger is having a career year avg close to lebron type numbers but quiet the impact that lbj23 has, grangers only downfall is his teams record but when has the all star game been every about ur teams record rather than ur individual performance day in day out. Same can be said about Bosh who is having an all star career year avg 23ppg , 9rpg and 1bpg making one of the best power forwards in the NBA. The center spot is the toughest Z HORFORD AND RASHEED all have winning records and are important parts of their teams but I still think it should go to big Z because of his stats and teams record being tied for 1st in the NBA.WEST RESERVESPG-C.PAUL SG-B.ROY SF-D.NOWTIZKI PF-A.STOUDAMIRE C-S. ONEALP.GASOL S.NASHnot a lot needs to be said bout C.PAUL he should be starting if it wasn’t for the stupid fans voting in TMAC who defiantly shouldn’t be an all star let alone an starter, ROY is one of the best young players in this league exploding almost every night to provide his team with great leadership and valuable scoring at the end of games, NOWITZKI AND STOUDAMIRE are obvious picks for these positions because of their past all star appearances and mvp type valuableness to their teams, I think SHAQ should get this position not just because the all star game is in Phoenix but also cause his numbers are drastically better then last year plus he is giving it all of his effort to try to win on a daily basis, LA is tied for best record in league so gasol def deserves to be here because of his great stats and killer instinct to help kobe win, Nash is a given here because of the location of the all star game and Nashs year in year out ability to make everyone around him considerably better. . | Posted by
Airabic Jordan
on 01.10.2009 | First of all you on reserves you can only have 2 guards 2 forwards 1 center and then 2 players at any position, so i don’t get why you have 5 guards and not one center. Ben Gordon and Derrick Rose defiantly don’t deserve to be all stars cause there team stinks and plus your telling me lebrons rookie year he wasn’t voted in and had better numbers then rose. CAVS are tied for best record in the NBA with Lakers and your telling me they don’t deserve at least 2 all stars EAST RESERVES PG-D.HARRIS SG-J.JOHNSON SF-D.GRANGER PF-C.BOSH C- Z, Horford, Rasheed V.CARTER P.PIERCE harris is playing at an all star level avg 23.2 ppg and 5.6 apg and keeping NJN in the playoff race along with VC thats why both deserve an all star spot, joe johnson is playing at a solid level and also has the hawks in top 5 in the EAST and challenging Boston,cavs, orl and det. Granger is having a career year avg close to lebron type numbers but quiet the impact that lbj23 has, grangers only downfall is his teams record but when has the all star game been every about ur teams record rather than ur individual performance day in day out. Same can be said about Bosh who is having an all star career year avg 23ppg , 9rpg and 1bpg making one of the best power forwards in the NBA. The center spot is the toughest Z HORFORD AND RASHEED all have winning records and are important parts of their teams but I still think it should go to big Z because of his stats and teams record being tied for 1st in the NBA.WEST RESERVESPG-C.PAUL SG-B.ROY SF-D.NOWTIZKI PF-A.STOUDAMIRE C-S. ONEALP.GASOL S.NASHnot a lot needs to be said bout C.PAUL he should be starting if it wasn’t for the stupid fans voting in TMAC who defiantly shouldn’t be an all star let alone an starter, ROY is one of the best young players in this league exploding almost every night to provide his team with great leadership and valuable scoring at the end of games, NOWITZKI AND STOUDAMIRE are obvious picks for these positions because of their past all star appearances and mvp type valuableness to their teams, I think SHAQ should get this position not just because the all star game is in Phoenix but also cause his numbers are drastically better then last year plus he is giving it all of his effort to try to win on a daily basis, LA is tied for best record in league so gasol def deserves to be here because of his great stats and killer instinct to help kobe win, Nash is a given here because of the location of the all star game and Nashs year in year out ability to make everyone around him considerably better. . | Posted by
ATL 4 Life
on 01.9.2009 | Ben Gordon is being overrated because you put him in an all star team when he is not at that level. You can stop comparing him with Ray Allen because doesn’t deserve to be either. Rose is playing unbelievably for a rookie, but keep him in the rook-soph game. He is not playing at an All-Star level. Again AJ is playing for a team with a terrible record but I said you need some height. HOW MANY GUARDS DO YOU WANT????? Besides those two chi players which clearly don’t belong the picks weren’t horrible. Still can’t believe you didn’t Amare in though.Also, what happened to your view of "Abolish Fan Voting for the NBA All Star Game". Now you seem to say IT’S WHO I WANNA SEE IN THE ALL STAR GAME. Instead of who deserves it. Make up your mind or write something interesting. . | Posted by
J. Nguyen
on 01.9.2009 | Thanks for disagreeing. I despise your picks, too. Everyone of you.
Al Jefferson is nice but can’t place him over Shaq or Billups. Like KD, he’s a stat stuffer on a bad team. That doesn’t matter though. Good IS Good. BUT, I’m not picking AL over KD. IT’S WHO I WANNA SEE IN THE ALL STAR GAME. It is what it is. And I’d rather see Durant.
As for the rest of my picks, it’s probably better than any one of you guys have. Besides, I will disagree with everyone of you and everyone of you will disagree with me. It’s all good. Some players get snubbed every year. I’m not picking sucky players or mediocre players. Please except that. I’ve picked players who, at the very least, should get All Star consideration. After all, they ARE on the ballot and got some votes.
As for hating on Pau Gasol just because he’s soft? HAHAHA sorry man. I point and laugh at you. Being soft is a quality that’s not quantifiable. Being an All Star is about numbers. Being on a winning team WHILE producing numbers increase your chances to make the All Star team in the eyes of coaches around the league and among media types. I know what’s up with Al Jefferson and I wish he was on my fantasy team. No need to tell me anything about him. Gasol playing for LA provides an increase to his visibility. When he was playing in Memphis, not many knew him.
Only "KD1" mentioned Deron Williams. No other person mentioned him. How sad. He’s still being disrespected for being the clear cut 2nd point guard in the L.
ATL 4 Life, I hope we never agree on anything. Let’s keep it that way. You say "Get Rose & Gordon off that East team!!! I can’t believe you put 2 overrated guards from a terrible team." Please explain why they’re overrated. I know that Ben Gordon is not Michael Jordan. Hell, he’s not even Joe Johnson and OJ Mayo is better than him already. So tell me how Ben Gordon is overrated. He’s averaging 21 points, 3 rebs, 3 assists tied with Ray Allen at number 4 in the entire L with 83 treys made. He’s better than Ray at 3pt percentage. Statistically, he’s having a better year than Ray Allen. So he earned to be an All Star reserve in my eyes. He earned some votes and got one from me. Maybe you’re the one overrating him just because you’re against me.
Derrick Rose has been an awesome super rookie. It’s funny that you say they’re from a terrible team...then you entered with Antawn Jamison who is on a trash squad. Washington Wiz is 2x worse than the Bulls. They haven’t even gotten 10 wins yet. . | Posted by
Lakers24/7
on 01.9.2009 | East Starters - Dwayne Wade, Joe Johnson, Lebron James, Kevin Garnett, Dwight HowardEast Reserves - Allen Iverson, Devin Harris, Vince Carter, Danny Granger, Chris Bosh, Rasheed WallaceWest Starters - Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Tim Duncan, Yao MingWest Reserves - Amare Stoudamire, Dirk Nowitzki, Carmelo Anthony, Tony Parker, Brandon Roy, Shaquille Oneal, Andrew Bynum . | Posted by
Oliver James Simpson
on 01.9.2009 | Paul Millsap should get some love, call him Mr.Double-Double. He hasn’t got the full season opportunity like these cats, but when he gets to shine he really does it . | Posted by
Lil Dick
on 01.9.2009 | Kevin Durant is not an All-Star. Ben Gordon is not an All-Star. . | Posted by
gucci
on 01.9.2009 | al jefferson has to be in there,hes doing great reguardless of the bad team record but at least they won 4 in a row , and same with amare, which should i think be in spot of your deron and durant, and in the east i think its funny you put rose and gordon and its only the fact your a huge bulls fan and no other reason NONE, if rose made it i could deal with it but gordon hell no, i think it should be ray allen, and rondo and i hate the celtics, better team record tho . | Posted by
on 01.9.2009 | J:N when are you going to learn how to write. You and your fag humpboy need to piss off. . | Posted by
ATL 4 Life
on 01.9.2009 | Are you serious 40 inch. How can you like those reserves. And you want to take Bosh out. That actually could be a good idea, because I was thinking the team was a little heavy. Maybe mo will or rondo? And I completely missed that about A. Stoud. I know Shaq has been ballin but over Amare, not a chance. And you write and article about players putting up numbers on bad teams should get in over less numbers on good teams, then proceed to ignore Al Jeff for Softy Gasol. I wonder if there will ever be a day I agree with you? and if it comes, will I be able to stomach reading the article to see it? . | Posted by
Ruptorz-Fan
on 01.9.2009 | FINALLY, a decent article by this guy.But, how could you say he was ROBBED of a spot by BRoy? It’s not like fackin anthony carter was in his pace, BRoy is pretty sick.And also, Shaq? Over Amare Stoudemire? (Melo will beat him in voting). You’ve got to be joking right? . | Posted by
40inchleaper
on 01.9.2009 | i agree with your own reserves except for Bosh . | Posted by
ATL 4 Life
on 01.9.2009 | The old "this person sucks, look at his game logs". Come on John! Please surprise me with something new and interesting. Its a voting system so this thing will always happen, just learn to live with it. Also for the East, have you heard of a thing called size? Get Rose & Gordon off that East team!!!! Big Z was deserving before injury and Jamison should get in for his 20-10. I can’t believe you put 2 overrated guards from a terrible team. . |
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