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Sunday , Apr , 08 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Lamar Odom on shrinking role with Mavs: ‘It is what it is’

Odom tried to find an ounce of humor in the sad situation, but the reality is it appears Carlisle is done with the spin, done with the positive reinforcement and maybe even done putting Odom on the floor with nine games left that are so vital to the defending champs' postseason hopes in this strange, strange season. "I can’t read it," Odom said of the immediate future. "It is what it is. What can I do? Coach is always right."

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Lamar Odom became a target the moment he went on TV for something other than basketball.

People fall in love. And Odom fell in love with Khloe Kardashian. But he didn’t have to be part of her reality world, hawking their relationship and various lifestyle products on the ‘E’ network.

Being such a public figure means perhaps he gets more of the blame than he deserves for the Dallas Mavericks’ poor play.

Make no mistake about it, Odom has been disappointing since coming over from the Los Angeles Lakers in a pre-season trade.

But what did Team Cuban expect?

Odom -- when unfocused and uninspired -- is a soft player. There was no way he could do any of things Tyson Chandler did for the Mavericks’ championship run.

Of course, the Mavericks never really wanted Odom. They wanted his contract, which they’ll buy-out at season’s end in order to chase free agent point guard Deron Williams.

Here’s what Odom should do: contact his former brother-in-law Kris Humphries. The Nets’ power forward, after an acrimonious divorce to Kim Kardashian, has kept a low profile, given up on being a second-rate celebrity, and focused on basketball.

Odom should do the same. His career, as a basketball player, depends on it.

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Saturday , Apr , 07 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Mike Brown: ‘I’m disappointed’ with Andrew Bynum

Bynum exited the game with 19 points, seven rebounds and two blocked shots in 31 minutes. The Rockets built a seven-point lead in Bynum’s absence and went on to winby five. It was eerily similar to the last time the Lakers played the Rockets, in Houston last month, when Bynum was ejected late in the third quarter for picking up his second T and the Lakers went on to lose 107-104.

“I’m disappointed because we told him, ‘You got one technical; don’t pick up your second,’ and he acknowledged us, and he went out and picked up his second when I thought he could have helped us win the ballgame,” Lakers coach Mike Brown said. Bynum did not speak to reporters after the game. “He acknowledged us, and it happened anyway,” Brown said. “When you have that, that is concerning. … Call it whatever you want to call it. It’s not right.”

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Andrew Bynum has to be smarter than this.

The Los Angeles Lakers star center can’t showboat and/or trash talk at the expense of his team. Bynum must realize doing so and getting ejected hurts his team.

After all, the massive seven-footer anchors the middle on both ends of the floor. When an older Kobe Bryant struggles to score, Bynum becomes the first option.

So Bynum getting two technical fouls yesterday against the Houston Rockets was selfish. Without the star center, the Lakers lost 107-104 and fell further behind the Oklahoma City Thunder and San Antonio Spurs in the Western Conference standings.

Bynum has a history of such acts. He once jostled with Shaquille O’Neal.  When supposedly injured he was pictured partying at the Playboy mansion. And last summer he got busted parking in a handicap spot.

The Lakers will need more from Bynum if he is to become their superstar and franchise face.

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Monday , Apr , 02 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Video: Kobe Bryant hits buzzer-beater, despite missing first 15 shots

HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Charles Barkley once said the difference between good and great is confidence.

Who is more confident than the great Kobe Bryant?

Last night, he missed his first fifteen attempts from the floor but still took and made the game-winning three-pointer to beat the determined New Orleans Hornets last night at Staples Center.

Click the video below and watch Bryant go to work on Jarrett Jack.


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Wednesday , Mar , 28 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Tony Parker: Spurs can beat Thunder to win championship

"Our goal is to win a championship. Tim Duncan and I haven’t got a lot of time left. The Spurs made the right moves by signing Stephen Jackson, Boris Diaw and Patty Mills. We have a complete team now. We know we can beat everybody in the West, we proved it by beating OKC two times already. Winning another title is something we can do this year. (…)

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: In the last month, the San Antonio Spurs have added Boris Diaw, Stephen Jackson, and Patty Mills to take, perhaps, their final run at an NBA championship.

This has All-Star point guard Tony Parker excited -and with good reason.

The black-and-silver has accumulated a potentially potent mix of youth and experience. They still have their ‘Big Three’ in Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, and Tony Parker, while DeJuan Blair, Kwahi Leonard, Gary Neal, and Tiago Splitter are all young and athletic.

The key could be Jackson. If he finds his past form -something that shouldn’t be too difficult as he won a championship with the Spurs in 2003- then Gregg Popovich’s crew could give the Oklahoma City Thunder and Los Angeles Lakers competition out west.

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Wednesday , Mar , 28 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Magic Johnson buys Dodgers for $2 billion

A group that includes former Lakers star Magic Johnson and longtime baseball executive Stan Kasten agreed Tuesday night to buy the Dodgers from Frank McCourt for a record $2 billion.

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: He’s a Hall of Fame point guard. And he’s fast becoming a Hall of Fame businessman.

Reports indicate a group led by Magic Johnson have succeeded in buying the iconic Los Angeles Dodgers for a record $2 billion. The amount is the highest ever paid for a sports franchise.

Look for Johnson to be the frontman for the group -as he's clearly comfortable in front of the camera and using his vast connections in and around the Los Angeles area. 

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Saturday , Mar , 24 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Kobe Bryant co-signs Jim Buss, but for how long?

We have a good relationship," Bryant told the "Mason & Ireland Show" on 710 ESPN on Thursday when asked about Jim Buss. "People misunderstand that relationship. We have a good time. We've had dinner together and things like that. He's a great guy and he wants to do the right thing and he wants to help us win a championship. The biggest thing, which was the same with his father, who he has learned from, is that he's not going to make rushed decisions. He's going to be patient and he's going to take his time."The one thing I will say about him and about the Lakers' organization is that it's one of those franchises that always seems to land on its feet. Always seems to make the right choices. Always seems to make the right decisions, even the tough ones."

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Kobe Bryant approves of Jim Buss … for now.

Bryant, the straw that stirs the drink for the Los Angeles Lakers, apparently likes the job Buss is doing in the owner-executive chair.

This is good for Buss. His survival, and the survival of the Lakers, depends on Bryant supporting management.

It doesn’t matter if the Buss family owns the team. Bryant - arguably, the greatest Laker ever and a once in a generation talent - is in charge.

Bryant’s comments are surprising, though. After all, the Lakers have made no secret of their desire to cut costs, which led to Lamar Odom getting sent to the Dallas Mavericks.

There were rumors Pau Gasol was getting traded. The chatter will resume this summer if the Lakers don’t win the west.

Still, all seems well in Laker-ville. Ramon Sessions is a terrific addition, adding speed and quickness on both ends of the floor.

This is just a moment, though. And moments change rather quickly with the NBA’s glamour team.

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Thursday , Mar , 22 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

How Ronny Turiaf helps the Heat

Free agent Ronny Turiaf finalized an agreement with the Miami Heat, league sources told Yahoo! Sports on Wednesday.

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: The rich got richer on Wednesday.

Yesterday, the Miami Heat signed veteran center Ronny Turiaf, who was bought-out by the Denver Nuggets after getting dealt by the Washington Wizards.

Turiaf will provide energy, rebounding, and defense. He'll also allow Chris Bosh to sit on the elbow and face up opponents.

Best of all, his championship experience with the Los Angeles Lakers will help the Heat during the playoffs.

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Wednesday , Mar , 21 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Rumor: Fisher to sign with Thunder?

Derek Fisher is in advanced negotiations with the Oklahoma City Thunder to sign with the Western Conference leaders after clearing waivers, according to sources close to the situation. Fisher is scheduled to clear waivers at 6 p.m. ET Wednesday. One source with knowledge of the talks told ESPN.com that Fisher is "very close" to committing to sign with the Thunder once he becomes a free agent.

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Can we chalk one up for small markets?

It appears the Oklahoma City Thunder have beat the Miami Heat for Derek Fisher’s services, signing the table-setter for the remainder of the season and playoffs.

Fisher was recently bought-out by the Houston Rockets, who acquired the five-time champion at the trade deadline from the Los Angeles Lakers.

Apparently, the veteran favours the Thunder because it would allow him to stay in the Western Conference, where he has played his entire 16-year career.

This development is surprising. Remember, Fisher forged a relationship with superstar LeBron James and the Heat when he looked at signing with Miami as a free agent in July of 2010.  

Expect Fisher to back-up and play next to All-Star Russell Westbrook. He’s expected to sign with the Thunder Wednesday evening after clearing waivers. 

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Monday , Mar , 19 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Rumor: Heat have edge over Bulls, Thunder in Derek Fisher sweepstakes?

Fisher is said to be strongly interested in joining the Chicago Bulls or Miami Heat, according to one source close to the situation. The San Antonio Spurs, sources told Stein, have not yet ruled out pursuing Fisher because their planned signing of former Portland Trail Blazers guard Patty Mills has been held up by the fact that Portland has not yet renounced rights to Mills.

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Can a 38-year old guard averaging less than six points per game be the difference between winning and losing an NBA championship?

Well, the Chicago Bulls, Miami Heat, and Oklahoma City Thunder think so. All are chasing Derek Fisher, an unrestricted free agent after receiving a buy-out courtesy of the Houston Rockets.

Fisher, of course, won five championships with the Los Angeles Lakers before getting dealt to Houston at the trade deadline.

Chicago, Miami, and Oklahoma City want Fisher to play limited minutes and serve as a mentor in the locker room.

Miami, perhaps, has a slight edge over Chicago and Oklahoma City. Remember, the Heat nearly signed the veteran two summers ago before he re-upped with the then defending world champion Lakers.

Fisher won’t forget that James, the game’s greatest star, met him at Miami's airport and tried to convince him to migrate east to South Beach.

And perhaps James’ lobbying will pay dividends this time around.

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Sunday , Mar , 18 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Kobe Bryant calls Derek Fisher trade ‘difficult’ and ‘weird’

Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant spoke to reporters on Friday for the first time since the team traded his longtime backcourt running mate, Derek Fisher, following the Lakers' 97-92 win over the Minnesota Timberwolves. His words were measured. While some expected Bryant to unleash a tirade after management parted ways with Fisher, considering the pair won five championships together and came into the league together as rookies in 1996, Bryant's message to the media was more somber than sharp. "Very difficult," Bryant said. "I'm not used to it because I've been with him my entire career, aside from that little stint that he had away from us. So, it's very different for me. It's pretty weird."

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: It was difficult for his heart. It wasn’t difficult for his head.

Kobe Bryant was saddened by news the Los Angeles Lakers sent teammate and friend Derek Fisher to the Houston Rockets on trade deadline.

After all, Bryant and Fisher have history.

They entered the NBA together as rookies with the Lakers in 1996. They played together for 13 of their 16 seasons. They won five championships together. And they also lost together.

Key word: together.

Along the way, they became close friends with Fisher having the clout to criticize, and even call out, Bryant.

Father Time finally caught Fisher. Even Bryant knew his 38-year old friend could no longer compete with the table-setters in the Western Conference.

Instead of doing the expected and trading Pau Gasol on Thursday, the purple-and-gold moved Fisher after acquiring Ramon Sessions from the Cleveland Cavaliers.  

Make no mistake about it, Sessions is an upgrade at point guard. He can attack the basket and is better at staying in front of elite 'ones' like Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook on defense.

That only makes the loss of Fisher somewhat easier to handle.

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Sunday , Mar , 18 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Lamar Odom: I never wanted out of L.A

The Lakers initially tried to trade Odom to the New Orleans Hornets in a deal for Chris Paul in December. The proposed trade upset Odom, and after the NBA vetoed the deal, Lakers officials said Odom told them he wanted out of L.A. Odom now says the trade wasn’t his doing. “Everybody knows that,” he said. “It was something that they were willing to get done no matter what. I think it is OK for them to admit that.”

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Lamar Odom, get over it.

Yes, the Los Angeles Lakers, the franchise you loved, traded you -more than once, in fact.

After all, Commissioner David Stern and the NBA nixed a three team deal that would’ve sent you to the New Orleans Hornets for superstar Chris Paul.

Then things got fuzzy. You say the Lakers continued shopping you, while the Lakers say you refused to report after ‘Paul-Gate’ and demanded a trade.

Bottom line: you ended up on the world champion Dallas Mavericks.

There could be worse things than playing for Team Cuban. However, you've pouted, played poorly, taken a leave without permission, tried for a buyout, and had to apologize when you didn’t get a buyout.

Instead of focusing on the present, instead of doing everything to help your struggling Mavericks, you insult the Lakers in an interview.

Not surprisingly, your play has suffered. And so will the market for your services when you become a free agent in July.

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Thursday , Mar , 15 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Hollywood shocker: Lakers send Fisher to Rockets

The Lakers have traded Derek Fisher and a first round pick to the Rockets for Jordan Hill. The pick sent to Houston was acquired by the Lakers from the Mavericks in the Lamar Odom trade. The Rockets accumulate yet another draft pick, while the Lakers get younger and save on the luxury tax.

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HoopsVibe's Very Quick Call: This will be a hard sell.

Rather than trade veteran Pau Gasol, the Los Angeles Lakers sent franchise stalwart, co-captain, and good guy Derek Fisher to the Houston Rockets for young forward Jordan Hill.

On-court, this makes sense. Fisher is 38 years old and would have sat behind Ramon Sessions -who the Lakers acquired at the deadline in a separate trade.

Off-court, this is much more complicated. Fisher and the Lakers won five championships together in large part because of the table-setter's professionalism and clutch shots.

Best of all, Fisher has a personal and working relationship with Kobe Bryant, the club's franchise face and Alpha Male. In fact, Fisher was one of the few people who could call out Bryant.

So this transaction could have a big impact in the Lakers' locker room.

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Thursday , Mar , 15 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Lakers get Sessions from Cavs for Walton and pick

Cavs send Ramon Sessions & Christian Eyenga for Luke Walton & 2012 Lakers first rounder. LAL gets right to swap '13 1st rounder w/Heat pick.

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: He’s not Chris Paul or Deron Williams, but Ramon Sessions is a clear upgrade at point guard for the Los Angeles Lakers.

Sessions is the kind of drive-and-kick table-setter Coach Mike Brown has long coveted for his offensive sets. Expect him to get minutes and eventually supplant veteran Derek Fisher as the starter.

All it cost the Lakers was Luke Walton,  a fan favourite who was out of Brown’s rotation, and a lottery protected first round draft pick.

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Wednesday , Mar , 14 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Rumor: Bulls want Pau Gasol?

The Chicago Bulls are exploring avenues to acquire Los Angeles Lakers forward Pau Gasol before Thursday's trade deadline, according to sources close to the situation.

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Years ago, the Los Angeles Lakers acquired Pau Gasol from the Memphis Grizzlies and then went on to win consecutive championships.

Perhaps the Spanish post will be the missing piece for the impressive Chicago Bulls. The Bulls reportedly want the skilled Gasol to complement 2011 MVP Derrick Rose.

And they’d be willing to sacrifice Carlos Boozer to get the perennial All-Star. But what’s in this trade for the Lakers?

Well, the Lakers aren’t interested in a straight Gasol for Boozer swap, so the Bulls are calling the league trying to find a third team to involve.

Of course, the clock is ticking. Thursday at noon eastern is the trade deadline.

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Sunday , Mar , 11 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Rumor: Thunder won’t trade Harden and Ibaka for Howard?

Oklahoma City is not in the Dwight Howard sweepstakes. Not giving up Harden/Ibaka. Not happening.

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Why break up a good thing?

The Oklahoma City Thunder were wise to kybosh the Orlando Magic’s offer of Dwight Howard for James Harden and Serge Ibaka.

After all, Harden and Ibaka are key components of a young Thunder squad that currently has the NBA`s best record and seem poised for greatness.

There’s no point in breaking up their core for the temperamental Howard, who has little interest in re-signing with small market Oklahoma City.

Howard wants a major market to maximize marketing opportunities. Like Los Angeles. Like New York. Maybe Dallas -if he can partner with Deron Williams.

Oklahoma City, even though their building an incredible legacy, isn’t right for Howard.

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Saturday , Mar , 10 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Rumor: Rockets and Lakers still talking Gasol trade?

Lakers front office telling people that "nothing is happening" with Pau Gasol, league sources say. For now, anyway.

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: The Los Angeles Lakers want great, not good.

So it doesn’t matter that Pau Gasol was an integral part of the purple-and-gold winning two championships. To stay great, the Lakers must make changes -and that likely means parting with Gasol.

In the last year, the Spaniard has been linked to the Minnesota Timberwolves, included in Dwight Howard trade talk, and nearly sent to the Houston Rockets as part of the nixed Chris Paul deal.

Bottom line: Lakers’ management are willing to sacrifice their All-Star so they can rebuild for another championship on the fly.

Fair enough. What if the Lakers can’t trade Gasol for a superstar before the deadline?

Then Kobe and company will have the unenviable task of pushing for a championship with a disgruntled second star.

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Monday , Mar , 05 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Kobe Bryant: Wade and LeBron aren’t worthy rivals

Lakers guard Kobe Bryant has always been lauded for his self-motivation and drive to be the best. It's a good thing he has that internal ambition, because according to Bryant, he's gone through his 16-year career without a true rival on the exterior to push him to succeed. "I didn't have one," Bryant said after scoring 38 points in the Lakers' 115-107 win over the Sacramento Kings on Friday.

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Gee, Kobe Bryant, tell us how you feel?

Bryant has every right to say he measures himself against Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan, and not LeBron James and Dwyane Wade.

Bryant, like Jordan and Johnson, won many championships, while James and Wade combined have one championship.

And Bryant played seven seasons in the NBA before James and Wade were drafted as part of the highly touted 2003 class.

This wasn’t about hoisting the Larry O’Brien championship trophy, though. This was about an edge -as Bryant’s Lakers faced James and Wade’s Heat in a much-hyped nationally televised game.

Fans were especially curious to see how Bryant would respond to Wade’s hard foul during the 2012 All-Star game in Orlando.

Bryant, in typical Black Mamba fashion, took no offense to the foul, which broke his nose and gave him a concussion. He simply proved his point by leading the Lakers to a 93-83 win over the Heat.

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Sunday , Mar , 04 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Chris Kaman on Potential Trades: ‘I don’t care’

With the NBA trade deadline looming in 11 days, the Hornets remain open to trading veteran center Chris Kaman, according to league sources. But Kaman said he doesn’t care what the Hornets may decide to do before the trade deadline.“I dont care what they do,’’ Kaman said. “So if they want to trade me, trade me. If they want to keep me, keep me. I don’t care, but not in a disrespectful way. I just know I can’t control that part of it, so it something I don’t care about.

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Chris Kaman isn’t at fault for this. Commissioner David Stern and the 30 owners he represents are.

Remember, Kaman came to the Hornets from the Clippers in the Chris Paul trade. The Hornets, who are owned by the NBA, had to accept an inferior package from the Clippers after Stern vetoed a blockbuster swap involving the Lakers and Rockets.

Stern nixed Paul joining the Lakers because he was concerned about the optics of a glamour team getting a superstar days after ushering in a supposedly more equitable Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Instead of getting a package of Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Lamar Odom, Goran Dragic, and a first round draft pick, the Hornets accepted Kaman, Eric Gordon, and other pieces.

All for optics.

Gordon has been injured. And Kaman, who struggled behind Emeka Okafor, was told earlier in the year by management to go home and wait for a trade. He recently returned when a trade couldn’t be found.

The bright side to this saga: Kaman’s $14 million per year contract expires at the end of the regular season.

So, the Hornets will get cap space if a deal can’t be found.

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Saturday , Mar , 03 , 2012 Andrew Flint

Will Lamar Odom or Mr. Khloe Kardashian return to Mavs?

Mavs decide they need Lamar Odom ASAP for tonight's game against Utah. D-League stint canceled. Story w/Jeff Caplan going up now. Link HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Mr. Khloe Kardashian will not have to 'lower' himself by reporting to the D-League, after all. The Dallas Mavericks did send Lamar Odom to their minor league affiliate, the Texas Legends, for a conditioning stint after his return from personal leave. The Mavericks, it turns out, need Odom for tonight's match against the Utah Jazz, so he's been recalled. Here’s the question: is Odom ready to contribute? He has spent months whining like a reality TV diva about his beloved Lakers including him in the nixed Chris Paul trade. Odom could have stayed with the purple-and-gold but forced a move to Team Cuban. The versatile swing has had a reduced role in Rick Carlisle’s rotation. All his numbers are down. Odom must improve to earn decent money next summer when the Mavericks buy out his contract to chase chase free agents Dwight Howard and/or Deron Williams. --Got thoughts? Well get at HoopsVibe News in the comment box below.  
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Tuesday , Feb , 28 , 2012 Hoopsvibe

Kings and city of Sacramento agree on arena deal

The city of Sacramento and the Kings announced a tentative deal today to build a new arena in the downtown railyard. More than half the money would come from leasing the city's parking to a private operator, but the team's owners say they've also agreed to pay $75 million upfront.

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HoopsVibe’s Very Quick Call: Good for Sacramento fans.

Today, the city of Sacramento and the Kings announced they had reached a deal on financing a new arena, ending any chance the team would move to Anaheim or Seattle.

Good for Kings-nation. A decade ago, Sacramento was a basketball-mad market, with a highly competitive team and intense fans.

In fact, other teams, specifically Phil Jackson and the Lakers, mocked the Kings for the cowbells and hooky building.

Bottom line: the Kings are staying. They can plan for the future, focus on winning, and get back to being a great franchise.

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